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PostPosted: 2004-04-13 14:29:41
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Local SWT trains from London were running to revised
timetables over the Easter period and notices said due to
work at Clapham.
However today (Tuesday) the 0830 ex waterloo was 17 mins
down when it got here due to engineering work at Clapham
Junction and the 1030 was 34 down for the same reason.
Also the 1248 from Weymouth (formed from the 0930) had
started 4 down, presumably due to shortage of turn round
time (timetabled 38 mins available).
Was there a problem with engineering over-run (did another
crane fall over)?
If this has already been answered, apologies for
duplicating it

IanB


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PostPosted: 2004-04-13 15:01:09
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IanB wrote in message
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> Local SWT trains from London were running to revised
> timetables over the Easter period and notices said due to
> work at Clapham.
> However today (Tuesday) the 0830 ex waterloo was 17 mins
> down when it got here due to engineering work at Clapham
> Junction and the 1030 was 34 down for the same reason.
> Also the 1248 from Weymouth (formed from the 0930) had
> started 4 down, presumably due to shortage of turn round
> time (timetabled 38 mins available).
> Was there a problem with engineering over-run (did another
> crane fall over)?
> If this has already been answered, apologies for
> duplicating it

I heard that a crane broke down, blocking the 2 fast lines
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PostPosted: 2004-04-13 18:08:59
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IanB wrote in message
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> Local SWT trains from London were running to revised
> timetables over the Easter period and notices said due to
> work at Clapham.
> However today (Tuesday) the 0830 ex waterloo was 17 mins
> down when it got here due to engineering work at Clapham
> Junction and the 1030 was 34 down for the same reason.
> Also the 1248 from Weymouth (formed from the 0930) had
> started 4 down, presumably due to shortage of turn round
> time (timetabled 38 mins available).
> Was there a problem with engineering over-run (did another
> crane fall over)?
> If this has already been answered, apologies for
> duplicating it

Absolute chaos - trains on the Portsmouth/Soton line running over 1 hour
late in to Waterloo at 1 point. A journey from Woking to Waterloo taking
almost 1 hour and 30 minutes. Over crowded, slow, dirty and expensive. The
SWT response? To enforce 1st Class tickets and to run 8 coach instead of 12
coach trains whilst terminating a couple of Portsmouth to Waterloo services
at Woking to increase the over crowding and disruption just for good
measure. So much for SWT/National Rail integrated management - load of
bollocks imvho.

When are these useless articles going to be made to pay for the disruption
and loss of productivity that continue to inflict on thousands of people
this year alone?

Gareth.


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PostPosted: 2004-04-13 19:44:13
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> When are these useless articles going to be made to pay for the disruption
> and loss of productivity that continue to inflict on thousands of people
> this year alone?
>
> Gareth.
>
yep delays this morning getting into work but I dont really mind about
these - so im late for the office who cares - no delay getting home - but
when that happens now thats a problem!


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PostPosted: 2004-04-13 21:37:33
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Nick wrote in message
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>
> > When are these useless articles going to be made to pay for the
disruption
> > and loss of productivity that continue to inflict on thousands of people
> > this year alone?
> >
> > Gareth.
> >
> yep delays this morning getting into work but I dont really mind about
> these - so im late for the office who cares - no delay getting home - but
> when that happens now thats a problem!

I wish I had the luxury of not having to worry about being late for work.
Being late home? Thats no problem ;-)

Gareth.


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PostPosted: 2004-04-15 01:23:19
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reread and digest thoroughly before starting pointless rants about overruns.
and i quote

We were working with both Kirov cranes, this time it was the Grant rail one
which broke down and the Balfour Beatty one had to carry out the remainder
of
the work, thereby redeeming itself for falling over at christmas when it was
rescued by the Grant Rail one.

The job was just about on schedule when the crane broke down (the wire rope
failed), at this point there was only one line (DMF) available for transfer
movements N to S and vv, creating a major logistical problem and we feared
at
least a 12 hour overrun. Thanks to the efforts of those involved this was
eventually reduced to 5 hours.

Our apologies to all who incurred inconvenience and delay, but this was the
biggest bridge renewal project on the railway for over 30 years and there
were
a number of other delay problems encountered which were minimised by those
involved. Some pretty heroic efforts went into this job, and now I intend to
spend the next few days asleep!

Kevin

i unquote .

would you like to the engineering supervisor for this - If you think you can
do better why not apply for the JOB and lets how you cope with the things
that can go wrong and this chap who was there has told you what happened .
These men who work these possessions are SUPERMEN. They do more in 8 hours
than most of us do in a week. 8 hours shifts to these guys and gals means 8
HOURS WORK,
Give them a break - they are trying to rebuild a railway and keep it running
at the same time - so that you can get to your humble desk on time and
safely !!

This is the real world and things do break down .

My rant is over - enjoy ya rest KTRAIL(kev) u sound like you need it

kev



Gareth wrote in message
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> Nick wrote in message
> news:107od6k6hc73h4c@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> >
> > > When are these useless articles going to be made to pay for the
> disruption
> > > and loss of productivity that continue to inflict on thousands of
people
> > > this year alone?
> > >
> > > Gareth.
> > >
> > yep delays this morning getting into work but I dont really mind about
> > these - so im late for the office who cares - no delay getting home -
but
> > when that happens now thats a problem!
>
> I wish I had the luxury of not having to worry about being late for work.
> Being late home? Thats no problem ;-)
>
> Gareth.
>
>


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PostPosted: 2004-04-15 07:09:17
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In article , Gareth
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>Absolute chaos - trains on the Portsmouth/Soton line running over 1 hour
>late in to Waterloo at 1 point. A journey from Woking to Waterloo taking
>almost 1 hour and 30 minutes.

Having half the lines blocked tends to have that effect.

>Over crowded, slow, dirty and expensive. The
>SWT response? To enforce 1st Class tickets

And why not? If you had a first class ticket and couldnt sit because
some mindless idiot without one was occupying your seat, wouldnt you
object?

>and to run 8 coach instead of 12
>coach trains

I presume that the rolling stock for the other 4 was in the wrong place.

>whilst terminating a couple of Portsmouth to Waterloo services
>at Woking to increase the over crowding and disruption just for good
>measure.

More likely so that theres a chance of getting any trains through.

You can get, say, one train through Clapham every 3 minutes on each
track. You normally have two up tracks, but today its reduced to 1. You
have 100 trains to get through in the next three hours. Do you:
(1) let them all run, and watch the queue of 40 delayed trains?
(2) terminate 40 of them short so that the other 60 will get through
roughly to time?

>So much for SWT/National Rail integrated management - load of
>bollocks imvho.

Looks like they worked out a plan that had some chance of success.

Non-integrated management would involve SWT insisting on running all the
trains and blocking the system up, or NR insisting that only trains
reaching Wimbledon on time were allowed through Clapham.

>When are these useless articles going to be made to pay for the disruption
>and loss of productivity that continue to inflict on thousands of people
>this year alone?

This event will count towards your season ticket discount.

When are useless posters like you going to learn about the real world?

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PostPosted: 2004-04-15 13:10:41
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kevin smith wrote in message
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> Give them a break - they are trying to rebuild a railway and keep it
running
> at the same time - so that you can get to your humble desk on time and
> safely !!

Fair enough, but the TOCs could still possibly show a bit more interest(?)
in whats happening with their passengers due to such incidents.

Little things like a bottle of water/newspaper/whatever go a long way to
giving the impression they actually care, rather then view passengers as
an inconvenience.


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